Did anyone hear it on the radio? I didn't hear all of it but he was really going on about fans moaning about the team.
He's not been tapped up by another club has he? and is looking for an excuse to go.
Wilder's Rant.
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I heard it.
Seems that his main gripes were some fans in SSL (not on our side, though) being a bit vocal about Chapman's performance and also playing the short corner in added time.
Chapman did struggle, and I didn't really understand why we were fannying around by the corner flag but there was booing by some people.
Although you pay your money and therefore you can express an opinion however you like, Wilder is equally entitled, as a professional football man, to express his own view about whether he agrees or not.
Storm in a teacup, really - we won, and won well and nothing else matters much.
What I found really depressing was the comments from some of the boneheads on the RadOx phone in who disagreed with him. Do you really want him to walk away, you f*ckwitts ?
Seems that his main gripes were some fans in SSL (not on our side, though) being a bit vocal about Chapman's performance and also playing the short corner in added time.
Chapman did struggle, and I didn't really understand why we were fannying around by the corner flag but there was booing by some people.
Although you pay your money and therefore you can express an opinion however you like, Wilder is equally entitled, as a professional football man, to express his own view about whether he agrees or not.
Storm in a teacup, really - we won, and won well and nothing else matters much.
What I found really depressing was the comments from some of the boneheads on the RadOx phone in who disagreed with him. Do you really want him to walk away, you f*ckwitts ?
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You've said it. They were too moronic to have actually listened to what he said. I also fully agree with CW - the Milk Cup is history, we have to concentrate on the here and now. I've been saying so myself for some time now - great but very little to do with OUFC 2009/10."amershamwrighty" wrote: f*ckwitts ?
Oh, and one of the "f*ckwitts" who was banging on about what a great supporter he was let slip that he had left before the end to avoid the traffic. Superb supporter mate.
That was a strange game.
Recently we've looked a team who may struggle for goals, but are impregnable at the other end. Today, it could easily have been 10-5. We were in control - and apart from when one cross whizzed across our goal at 2-1 - the win was never in doubt.
My worry - and it's not that much of a worry - is that we had too many options today ... it was an embarrassment of riches at times. Can we get a settled team and keep a happy squad when we have to perm three from Constable, Green x2, Potter, Sodje, Cook, Midson, Deering ... have I missed any?
If I had shares in Ebbsfleet Utd, I'd be penning Liam Daish an email asking why he took both of his best two players off. The winger who had skinned Chapman time after time must have been livid - especially when Batt went off with a hammy shortly after. And Viera was a threat all game too. I wasn't sad to see him go off.
Recently we've looked a team who may struggle for goals, but are impregnable at the other end. Today, it could easily have been 10-5. We were in control - and apart from when one cross whizzed across our goal at 2-1 - the win was never in doubt.
My worry - and it's not that much of a worry - is that we had too many options today ... it was an embarrassment of riches at times. Can we get a settled team and keep a happy squad when we have to perm three from Constable, Green x2, Potter, Sodje, Cook, Midson, Deering ... have I missed any?
If I had shares in Ebbsfleet Utd, I'd be penning Liam Daish an email asking why he took both of his best two players off. The winger who had skinned Chapman time after time must have been livid - especially when Batt went off with a hammy shortly after. And Viera was a threat all game too. I wasn't sad to see him go off.
If anyone on this board didn’t hear CW’s post-match comments then I suggest they electronically dig them out of the RadOx online archives. It was fantastic media stuff and the BBC representative will have walked away from that interview with a smile on his face. Well, it’s what They really want (i.e. an immediate reaction) rather than the usual stuff about yet another win @ The Kassam.
I think CW’s comments split (to some small extent) our magnificent supporter base that we have here in Oxford, and if he’d had more time to think about what he meant to say for a few days and then made his views known at the weekly OUFC press conference then matters could have been more properly addressed. Cutting out the reference to our League Cup win in 1986 springs to mind because that really fucked me off, as like every professional football club we have part-time/casual supporters, and at OUFC I reckon we have around 50,000.
As a ST holder then I’ve got no problems about what he said to Nathan. I don’t sit anywhere near the dugout (where it seems some fans mentally got to him today) but if CW stood nose-to-nose to me and accused me of the hideous crime of not smiling and chanting for the whole of the 90 minutes and told me to “just fuck off and die
I think CW’s comments split (to some small extent) our magnificent supporter base that we have here in Oxford, and if he’d had more time to think about what he meant to say for a few days and then made his views known at the weekly OUFC press conference then matters could have been more properly addressed. Cutting out the reference to our League Cup win in 1986 springs to mind because that really fucked me off, as like every professional football club we have part-time/casual supporters, and at OUFC I reckon we have around 50,000.
As a ST holder then I’ve got no problems about what he said to Nathan. I don’t sit anywhere near the dugout (where it seems some fans mentally got to him today) but if CW stood nose-to-nose to me and accused me of the hideous crime of not smiling and chanting for the whole of the 90 minutes and told me to “just fuck off and die
I was collecting my H&Y Fa Trophy ticket when CW gave that interview, so will have to catch up later. But I did hear most of the follow up calls, one very bitter fan. I did boo an attack from OM stand, but only because at the time we were 3-1 up and I had that in the correct score prediction.
CW does seem to have a George Graham defensive approach to his squad.
When we beat Eastbourne 4-0, he dragged the players off the pitch for not doing better.
Against Yeovil he parked the bus the last 20 minutes.
Today with a 2 goal lead he moved us into a defensive role kicking short corners around when I reckon most people were thinking "let's enjoy this and go for another goal". OK the league is our ambition, but can't we have some fun on the way?
CW does seem to have a George Graham defensive approach to his squad.
When we beat Eastbourne 4-0, he dragged the players off the pitch for not doing better.
Against Yeovil he parked the bus the last 20 minutes.
Today with a 2 goal lead he moved us into a defensive role kicking short corners around when I reckon most people were thinking "let's enjoy this and go for another goal". OK the league is our ambition, but can't we have some fun on the way?
Booing does nothing for the players or our cause.
Moving on, how many more points do we still need to be not lower than 2nd place in Poxy Division Land given that we have 55 already and still half a season to play?
This is what teams got when they finished 2nd in Division V in recent years.
2009 – Cambridge United (86)
2008 – Cambridge United (86)
2007 – Oxford United (81)
Dunno who Wilder’s agent is, but Beano leaves it all to his Dad to sort out.
Moving on, how many more points do we still need to be not lower than 2nd place in Poxy Division Land given that we have 55 already and still half a season to play?
This is what teams got when they finished 2nd in Division V in recent years.
2009 – Cambridge United (86)
2008 – Cambridge United (86)
2007 – Oxford United (81)
Dunno who Wilder’s agent is, but Beano leaves it all to his Dad to sort out.
I've just listened to both his RadOx rant and his more considered interview on Yellow World. The latter is much better and he is much more coherent. His points seem to be: 1) some of our fans are expecting it to go wrong 2) what's happened in the past, either positive or negative - has no bearing on this season and 3) having negative thoughts in or around the ground - could rub off on the players and he doesn't want that. All of which are true.
The only constant at a club is the fans: the pain we've suffered has left scars on us and he's sensibly telling us that we have to leave our baggage at home. Fair play.
I've no doubt that there was an element of planning in all of this perhaps on RO he went too far and I'd imagine Chris Williams may have had a quick word that perhaps a slightly toned down version would be better.
The only constant at a club is the fans: the pain we've suffered has left scars on us and he's sensibly telling us that we have to leave our baggage at home. Fair play.
I've no doubt that there was an element of planning in all of this perhaps on RO he went too far and I'd imagine Chris Williams may have had a quick word that perhaps a slightly toned down version would be better.
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I haven't done the complete permutation yet, but I'm fairly sure that we've almost now mathematically avoided relegation."Snake" wrote:Moving on, how many more points do we still need to be not lower than 2nd place in Poxy Division Land given that we have 55 already and still half a season to play?
Unfortunately, this year the top 5 places look likely to require a lot more points than the average as there are quite a few teams who are consistently taking points off the lower teams. 2nd place may well have 90 points or more.
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Wilder's rant was a bit OTT, I was a bit surprised by but didn't have a problem with it at all. Appently CW was at the Luton game mid-week and saw first hand what a negative affect 'supporters' can have on players.
CW appears to be a straight forward guy, I can completely understand him being pissed off with a small section of 'supporters' who boo & critise individual players. Get a grip, this is non-lague football ffs, 5 points clear a game in hand what more do people expect, the Milk Cup (and yes I was there) and the glory days are irrelevant to what is going on the pitch today.
A couple of the RadOx callers who jumped at the chance to feel insulted or offended in some way - Pathetic.
However a small part of did wonder if this wasn't partly pre-planned (a bit like his comments after the 4-0 home win earlier in the season), I thought it was interesting that Wilder's outburst was after a win rather than a defeat, I also think that the players will appreciate CW's public backing.
CW appears to be a straight forward guy, I can completely understand him being pissed off with a small section of 'supporters' who boo & critise individual players. Get a grip, this is non-lague football ffs, 5 points clear a game in hand what more do people expect, the Milk Cup (and yes I was there) and the glory days are irrelevant to what is going on the pitch today.
A couple of the RadOx callers who jumped at the chance to feel insulted or offended in some way - Pathetic.
However a small part of did wonder if this wasn't partly pre-planned (a bit like his comments after the 4-0 home win earlier in the season), I thought it was interesting that Wilder's outburst was after a win rather than a defeat, I also think that the players will appreciate CW's public backing.
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Pre meditated if you ask me. Wilders a master. Much ado about nothing, will be forgotten by Monday.
Can't we talk about the match instead? Much more interesting. Potter's performance and goals were magnificent.
I waxed lyrical about Perry after Tuesday, today he was disappointng. Stilll young, still inconsistent. I'd still prefer him to Foster.
Batt's fitness is a worry, he's a key player for us. Clist and Sandwith did well today.
Ebbsfleet? Won't be relegated on that showing. Why was Welsh taken off just as Batt started limping? Dumb tactics.
Can't we talk about the match instead? Much more interesting. Potter's performance and goals were magnificent.
I waxed lyrical about Perry after Tuesday, today he was disappointng. Stilll young, still inconsistent. I'd still prefer him to Foster.
Batt's fitness is a worry, he's a key player for us. Clist and Sandwith did well today.
Ebbsfleet? Won't be relegated on that showing. Why was Welsh taken off just as Batt started limping? Dumb tactics.
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Ahhh, Dan."YF Dan" wrote:That was a strange game.
Recently we've looked a team who may struggle for goals, but are impregnable at the other end. Today, it could easily have been 10-5. We were in control - and apart from when one cross whizzed across our goal at 2-1 - the win was never in doubt.
My worry - and it's not that much of a worry - is that we had too many options today ... it was an embarrassment of riches at times. Can we get a settled team and keep a happy squad when we have to perm three from Constable, Green x2, Potter, Sodje, Cook, Midson, Deering ... have I missed any?
If I had shares in Ebbsfleet Utd, I'd be penning Liam Daish an email asking why he took both of his best two players off. The winger who had skinned Chapman time after time must have been livid - especially when Batt went off with a hammy shortly after. And Viera was a threat all game too. I wasn't sad to see him go off.
Was this the same Dan who spent the entire journey back from the stadium last week looking through the programme for negatives..
"when was the last time we scored more than one goal?"
"if we lose this and that and stevenage win this and that, then we'll no longer be top"
I agree with Wilders rant.
Too many people seem to be looking for the ngative. It's like we have a support-base who love the fact we fuck up, who glory in the fact we have fallen so far in such a short space of time.
Cheer the fuck up and get behind a winning team.
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Wilder may be right in what he says, but I would be happier if he hadn't said it. I think many fans believe that paying the money entitles them to an opinion, and I believe there is some confusion here: if the issue is just pratting about near the corner flag, I hate that whoever does it.
However, I certainly agree that we should forget it.
Just crosses my mind to wonder whether he was angry about something else, like the right back situation, either blaming himself or Batt (said he was fit but he wasn't?) for the situation surrounding the second Fleet goal.
However, I certainly agree that we should forget it.
Just crosses my mind to wonder whether he was angry about something else, like the right back situation, either blaming himself or Batt (said he was fit but he wasn't?) for the situation surrounding the second Fleet goal.
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I admit, I carry a lot of baggage to Oxford matches."recordmeister" wrote:Ahhh, Dan."YF Dan" wrote:That was a strange game.
Recently we've looked a team who may struggle for goals, but are impregnable at the other end. Today, it could easily have been 10-5. We were in control - and apart from when one cross whizzed across our goal at 2-1 - the win was never in doubt.
My worry - and it's not that much of a worry - is that we had too many options today ... it was an embarrassment of riches at times. Can we get a settled team and keep a happy squad when we have to perm three from Constable, Green x2, Potter, Sodje, Cook, Midson, Deering ... have I missed any?
If I had shares in Ebbsfleet Utd, I'd be penning Liam Daish an email asking why he took both of his best two players off. The winger who had skinned Chapman time after time must have been livid - especially when Batt went off with a hammy shortly after. And Viera was a threat all game too. I wasn't sad to see him go off.
Was this the same Dan who spent the entire journey back from the stadium last week looking through the programme for negatives..
"when was the last time we scored more than one goal?"
"if we lose this and that and stevenage win this and that, then we'll no longer be top"
I agree with Wilders rant.
Too many people seem to be looking for the ngative. It's like we have a support-base who love the fact we fuck up, who glory in the fact we have fallen so far in such a short space of time.
Cheer the fuck up and get behind a winning team.