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Baboo · Post by **Baboo** » Mon May 04, 2009 3:19 pm

&quotPaul Cooper&quot wrote:[
Wasn't there supposed to be a cut off date after which if it didn't affect promotion/ relegation the deduction went to the following season?

This is very odd.

That's what I thought. Perhaps Brian Lee has Football League influence too?

Mooro · Post by **Mooro** » Thu May 07, 2009 3:50 pm

So, the current position is:
Stockport and Darlington already in admin, 10pts deducted this season.
Southampton in admin, 10pt penalty awaits them next season.
If any actually fold, then they will most likely be allowed to reform two levels below their current level (ie. BSP for Soton &amp Stockport, BSN for Darlington).

Others alledgedly on the verge, all facing a 10pt penalty for next season, as it is presumably too late to be penalised for this one now the final game has been played.

The most prominent club on the edge is Chester. If they are repreived by a club above them folding, then they will start the new season in League 2 with a 10pt penalty (which should surely, finally kill them off).
However, if their relegation is confirmed, then the Conference rules on administration will, I believe, bump them straight into Conference North (a la Boston), with 12 months notice of further demotion if they have not exited administration by a date in May2010.

With the exception of Weymouth, who I understand are set to take voluntary demotion down one or more levels, are there any other clubs who are known to be close?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8037396.stm

Appears that if Chester survive, they'll be likely to be doing so in League 2 rather than the Conference. Infact, given that if they do come down and go into administration then Mr Lee will automatically bump them into the Conference North (a la Boston), then it is increasingly unlikely that we will be facing them next season

slappy · Post by **slappy** » Thu May 07, 2009 4:08 pm

&quotBaboo&quot wrote:
&quotPaul Cooper&quot wrote:[
Wasn't there supposed to be a cut off date after which if it didn't affect promotion/ relegation the deduction went to the following season?

This is very odd.
That's what I thought. Perhaps Brian Lee has Football League influence too?

The Standardised Rules 13.8 for National League Steps 1-6 (ie the Conference) state if a club ceases to operate after the Conference AGM and before the next season starts, then no adjustment to the number of clubs will be made. Not sure if the same applies in the football league.

For insolvency events, rule 14 applies, whereby
- if an event occurs before 5pm on 4th Thursday in March, the penalty is applied immediately.
- If after, and outside playing season, the penalty is next season.
- If between 4th Thursday in March, and before end of season, it depends on whether the deduction would on its own put the team into a final relegation spot. So if not, then it is current season. If it would put them in relegation spot, then current season. If already relegated, then next season.

Myles Francis · Post by **Myles Francis** » Thu May 07, 2009 4:47 pm

I see that Stockport have now made their manager redundant. That suggets to me that things are terminal there.

Snake · Post by **Snake** » Thu May 07, 2009 8:15 pm

Ditto at that really nice stadium Up North as it seems like Darlo have been “mothballed

Mooro · Post by **Mooro** » Wed May 13, 2009 3:52 pm

http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/local ... -23565386/

Appears that Darlington will be able to limp into the new season in League 2, which removes the prospect for that league running one short (unless someone new goes to the wall).

Which leaves Stockport and Soton, who will join us instead of Chester and Luton if they fold and reform. Except that Chester won't be joining us in the BSP as Mr Lee will bump them straight into the Conference North for being in Admin, thus reprieving Woking.

Meanwhile Conference South relegatees Fisher Athletic have been wound up (as have Darwin) and Newcastle Blue Star are days from announcing the same....while Kings Lynn await an appeal hearing in two weeks time around their ground related demotion which may reprieve Hyde, unless of course they fold as well, which is apparently quite likely....

give me an O · Post by **give me an O** » Wed May 13, 2009 4:07 pm

&quotMooro&quot wrote:http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/local ... -23565386/

Appears that Darlington will be able to limp into the new season in League 2, which removes the prospect for that league running one short (unless someone new goes to the wall).

Which leaves Stockport and Soton, who will join us instead of Chester and Luton if they fold and reform. Except that Chester won't be joining us in the BSP as Mr Lee will bump them straight into the Conference North for being in Admin, thus reprieving Woking.

Meanwhile Conference South relegatees Fisher Athletic have been wound up (as have Darwin) and Newcastle Blue Star are days from announcing the same....while Kings Lynn await an appeal hearing in two weeks time around their ground related demotion which may reprieve Hyde, unless of course they fold as well, which is apparently quite likely....

What a mess!

Kernow Yellow · Post by **Kernow Yellow** » Wed May 13, 2009 7:38 pm

&quotMooro&quot wrote:...Which leaves Stockport and Soton, who will join us instead of Chester and Luton if they fold and reform....

Is it really likely that Southampton will have to do that though? I don't remember any club anywhere near that size ever having to drop out of the league. In fact I can't remember any league club having to properly fold. There always seems to be some way out.

Myles Francis · Post by **Myles Francis** » Wed May 13, 2009 8:37 pm

&quotKernow Yellow&quot wrote: In fact I can't remember any league club having to properly fold. There always seems to be some way out.

Aldershot.
Maidstone ?
Newport County (although I think they were relegated before they folded)

Mooro · Post by **Mooro** » Thu May 14, 2009 12:03 pm

Quick scan on the Stockport and Soton sites both indicate positive offers to the adminstrators in both cases.
Stockport have also sold a player to PEterboro which they say will cover running costs for a while.

So, with Darlo also ticking over as above, indications are that all three will at least stumble along until the kickoff next August, which should ensure that Chester and Luton take the drop...

slappy · Post by **slappy** » Thu May 14, 2009 3:18 pm

Not really administration related, but does it seem to anyone else that a lot of teams this close season are releasing more players than usual and aiming to run on a lot lower costs next year?

This is to be expected of course with the economic downturn and reduction in willing financial backers and sponsors.

GodalmingYellow · Post by **GodalmingYellow** » Thu May 14, 2009 3:26 pm

&quotslappy&quot wrote:Not really administration related, but does it seem to anyone else that a lot of teams this close season are releasing more players than usual and aiming to run on a lot lower costs next year?

This is to be expected of course with the economic downturn and reduction in willing financial backers and sponsors.

The gravy train has finally derailed.

slappy · Post by **slappy** » Thu May 14, 2009 3:29 pm

I've convinced myself that somehow the Conference will arrange for us to play all the likely administration candidates early in the season before they let all their good players go.

slappy · Post by **slappy** » Fri May 15, 2009 11:54 am

york releasing 6 players and keeping Farrell
http&#58//www&#46bluesqfootball&#46com/ ... 00&#46html
and chester sound like they are going into administration.
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Boogie · Post by **Boogie** » Sun May 17, 2009 12:57 pm

Chester now in Administration.

Do they now get bumped down to BSN with a reprieve for Woking?

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