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&quotMyles Francis&quot wrote: As ResOx says, the past has happened and can't be changed. Things look like they're moving forward and if you can't gain some enjoyment from that... well.

yes, that's great. but if we don't get promotion this season, then for how long will we be able to afford such things (training ground, overnight stays, etc.?

i know the question is aimed at detaching the enjoyment of the season thus far from the outcome, but when i think about it, there's always a &quotyes, but...&quot at the back of my mind.

Oh, absolutely. And we're fortunate that it's not 5 (?) years ago when only the Conference champions got promoted.

As someone has already said, I've enjoyed it, but don't want to do it again next season!

&quotMyles Francis&quot wrote:

&quotSnake&quot wrote:But on reflection just how have we arrived at this kind of situation, being one where we can stuff a few non-league clubs now and again and are seemingly GRATEFUL for it (according to the poll)?

Sorry, I thought the poll was asking if I'd enjoyed the season, not whether I was grateful that we are where we are.

As ResOx says, the past has happened and can't be changed. Things look like they're moving forward and if you can't gain some enjoyment from that... well.

The answer to the question isn't simply about whether or not you can gain enjoyment from the club moving in the right direction (though questions remain on even that issue), but whether that enjoyment is outweighed by the loss of league status and all the other issues previously mentioned in connection with non-league status and playing at this level.

Of course we can't change the past, but that doesn't mean we have to, or even should, forget it happened. For some of us, that loss of league status is a fundamental element to our football club, and our football club is significantly diminished without it.

Its rather blinkered imho to to simply say forget what has happened and take only this period in isolation. You can't do so. The football club is where it is because of its history.

Otherwise its a bit like saying did you enjoy your recuperation after illness. Answer no, I'd rather not have had to recuperate in the first place and I still felt ill until I was fully cured.

&quotGodalmingYellow&quot wrote:The answer to the question isn't simply about whether or not you can gain enjoyment from the club moving in the right direction (though questions remain on even that issue), but whether that enjoyment is outweighed by the loss of league status and all the other issues previously mentioned in connection with non-league status and playing at this level.

No, Terry. That's your answer, it's not THE answer.

I chose to interpret the question more simply than you. If you think I'm being &quotblinkered&quot, that's up to you. Personally, I find it incredulous that when your club has had it's most successful season for (roughly) a decade you cannot gain enjoyment simply because it's not league football - because when you strip away the emotive guff, that's what it boils down to.

To use your illness analogy, I'm the sort of person who would be thankful for the recovery and the move back towards full-fitness rather than waste energy hand-wringing over getting the illness in the first place.

I had a fantastic recuperation in 1988. I had to have a nasal polyp removed in the Radcliffe Infirmary and then needed to spend three weeks recovering at home. This three week period happened to end on the very same day that the football season started (Elland Road, 1-1, Foyle, Saunders sent off if my memory is correct).