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&quotSackcloth Ox&quot wrote:Can I start the pessimism? Devil's advocate here. Come on shoot me down.

League 2 has improved signficantly since we were last there. Too many supporters are already writing off next season as a procession to promotion. On what grounds? That we finished third?

I reckon , forget the also rans, quite a few of the winning team yesterday are not really up to league football. And I'll name them.

Clarke- too many errors in key games./Creighton (too slow) /Bulman (ditto) /Day ( too slow).

Maybe not up to it: M Green (inconsistent!)/ gulp, Beano, (remains unproven at higher level)

Up to it:

Batt, Tonkin, Clist (just)/Wright (definitely)/Chapman (but he'll be in with Norman Stanley Fletcher/Potter/Deering/Midson ( not 100% convinced but he has good skill level.)


Sorry to piss on chips, that's how I see it.
Lot of work in close season for Wilder. I bet there will be more changes than everyone imagjnes.
Bloody hell, at least let the open topped bus driver turn the ignition off.

Most supporters are still celebrating.
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&quotGodalmingYellow&quot wrote:
&quotSackcloth Ox&quot wrote:Can I start the pessimism? Devil's advocate here. Come on shoot me down.

League 2 has improved signficantly since we were last there. Too many supporters are already writing off next season as a procession to promotion. On what grounds? That we finished third?

I reckon , forget the also rans, quite a few of the winning team yesterday are not really up to league football. And I'll name them.

Clarke- too many errors in key games./Creighton (too slow) /Bulman (ditto) /Day ( too slow).

Maybe not up to it: M Green (inconsistent!)/ gulp, Beano, (remains unproven at higher level)

Up to it:

Batt, Tonkin, Clist (just)/Wright (definitely)/Chapman (but he'll be in with Norman Stanley Fletcher/Potter/Deering/Midson ( not 100% convinced but he has good skill level.)


Sorry to piss on chips, that's how I see it.
Lot of work in close season for Wilder. I bet there will be more changes than everyone imagjnes.
Bloody hell, at least let the open topped bus driver turn the ignition off.

Most supporters are still celebrating.

Yes, but hard choices to be made .Pre season training starts in less than six weeks.

What do you think of Wright, reckon he will make it GY? :P
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Post by Ancient Colin »

As Saint Jake is obviously so good, presumably Brighton won't release him?! League 2 may have improved, and certainly Turkey have been in danger, but with Aldershot, Dagenham and Morecambe in the playoffs, Burton, Hereford and Accrington relatively comfortable in mid-table and Exeter already up (albeit struggling) it doesn't look like sides coming out of the conference find it incredibly tough. How much did those others rebuild?
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Post by Beach Road End »

Since the conference became almost fully pro the gap between the 2 leagues seams fairly slim. I agree that it's going to be tougher and the priority will be just to stay up but I see no reason why we cant be in the upper half of the table.

Fuck it I'll worry about that in August :D :D
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Post by GodalmingYellow »

I don't think there is any difference in standard between top 6 or 7 in Conference, and top 6 or 7 in League 2.

Pretty much all promoted Conference clubs have gone on to do very well in League 2 and I would expect us to be strong next season.

Difficult decisions will need to be made, but let's just enjoy the moment for now. We don't have many opportunities to do so.
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&quotGodalmingYellow&quot wrote:I don't think there is any difference in standard between top 6 or 7 in Conference, and top 6 or 7 in League 2.

Pretty much all promoted Conference clubs have gone on to do very well in League 2 and I would expect us to be strong next season.

Difficult decisions will need to be made, but let's just enjoy the moment for now. We don't have many opportunities to do so.
Lower league musings from a man who thought Wright couldn't play. Government health warning attached.
:wink:
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&quotSackcloth Ox&quot wrote:
&quotGodalmingYellow&quot wrote:I don't think there is any difference in standard between top 6 or 7 in Conference, and top 6 or 7 in League 2.

Pretty much all promoted Conference clubs have gone on to do very well in League 2 and I would expect us to be strong next season.

Difficult decisions will need to be made, but let's just enjoy the moment for now. We don't have many opportunities to do so.
Lower league musings from a man who thought Wright couldn't play. Government health warning attached.
:wink:
Hmmm, i think you will find that GY and myself, amongst others, were critical of Wright in his early games. Interestingly, Wilder mentioned recently that he also thought Wright had a 'shakey' start. I think we can probably all agree that Wilder knows what he's talking about.........
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&quotSackcloth Ox&quot wrote:Can I start the pessimism? Devil's advocate here. Come on shoot me down.

League 2 has improved signficantly since we were last there. Too many supporters are already writing off next season as a procession to promotion. On what grounds? That we finished third?

I reckon , forget the also rans, quite a few of the winning team yesterday are not really up to league football. And I'll name them.

Clarke- too many errors in key games./Creighton (too slow) /Bulman (ditto) /Day ( too slow).

Maybe not up to it: M Green (inconsistent!)/ gulp, Beano, (remains unproven at higher level)

Up to it:

Batt, Tonkin, Clist (just)/Wright (definitely)/Chapman (but he'll be in with Norman Stanley Fletcher/Potter/Deering/Midson ( not 100% convinced but he has good skill level.)


Sorry to piss on chips, that's how I see it.
Lot of work in close season for Wilder. I bet there will be more changes than everyone imagjnes.
Lower league musings from someone who doesn't know the facts. Beano not up to standard? Are you sure SO? :lol:
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&quotSackcloth Ox&quot wrote:
&quotGodalmingYellow&quot wrote:
&quotSackcloth Ox&quot wrote:Can I start the pessimism? Devil's advocate here. Come on shoot me down.

League 2 has improved signficantly since we were last there. Too many supporters are already writing off next season as a procession to promotion. On what grounds? That we finished third?

I reckon , forget the also rans, quite a few of the winning team yesterday are not really up to league football. And I'll name them.

Clarke- too many errors in key games./Creighton (too slow) /Bulman (ditto) /Day ( too slow).

Maybe not up to it: M Green (inconsistent!)/ gulp, Beano, (remains unproven at higher level)

Up to it:

Batt, Tonkin, Clist (just)/Wright (definitely)/Chapman (but he'll be in with Norman Stanley Fletcher/Potter/Deering/Midson ( not 100% convinced but he has good skill level.)


Sorry to piss on chips, that's how I see it.
Lot of work in close season for Wilder. I bet there will be more changes than everyone imagjnes.
Bloody hell, at least let the open topped bus driver turn the ignition off.

Most supporters are still celebrating.

Yes, but hard choices to be made .Pre season training starts in less than six weeks.

What do you think of Wright, reckon he will make it GY? :P
You might want to re-consdier your high horse statements. Check out the following highlights:

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4'29&quot Lost his mark and nearly conceded as a result.
5'00&quot Caught in possession in dangerous area. Got away with it.
13'20&quot Caught in possession and almost conceded as a result.
14'53&quot Didn't stay goal side, slow to turn and beaten all ends up and allowed a shot which should have conceded a goal.
15'08&quot Not closing down and allowing shot in. should have conceded a goal.

Wright is an OK player at Conference level. He will likely be OK at League 2, but no more. :wink:
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&quotGodalmingYellow&quot wrote:
&quotSackcloth Ox&quot wrote:Can I start the pessimism? Devil's advocate here. Come on shoot me down.

League 2 has improved signficantly since we were last there. Too many supporters are already writing off next season as a procession to promotion. On what grounds? That we finished third?

I reckon , forget the also rans, quite a few of the winning team yesterday are not really up to league football. And I'll name them.

Clarke- too many errors in key games./Creighton (too slow) /Bulman (ditto) /Day ( too slow).

Maybe not up to it: M Green (inconsistent!)/ gulp, Beano, (remains unproven at higher level)

Up to it:

Batt, Tonkin, Clist (just)/Wright (definitely)/Chapman (but he'll be in with Norman Stanley Fletcher/Potter/Deering/Midson ( not 100% convinced but he has good skill level.)


Sorry to piss on chips, that's how I see it.
Lot of work in close season for Wilder. I bet there will be more changes than everyone imagjnes.
Lower league musings from someone who doesn't know the facts. Beano not up to standard? Are you sure SO? :lol:
'Maybe', I said 'maybe'.
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&quotSackcloth Ox&quot wrote:
&quotGodalmingYellow&quot wrote:
&quotSackcloth Ox&quot wrote:Can I start the pessimism? Devil's advocate here. Come on shoot me down.

League 2 has improved signficantly since we were last there. Too many supporters are already writing off next season as a procession to promotion. On what grounds? That we finished third?

I reckon , forget the also rans, quite a few of the winning team yesterday are not really up to league football. And I'll name them.

Clarke- too many errors in key games./Creighton (too slow) /Bulman (ditto) /Day ( too slow).

Maybe not up to it: M Green (inconsistent!)/ gulp, Beano, (remains unproven at higher level)

Up to it:

Batt, Tonkin, Clist (just)/Wright (definitely)/Chapman (but he'll be in with Norman Stanley Fletcher/Potter/Deering/Midson ( not 100% convinced but he has good skill level.)


Sorry to piss on chips, that's how I see it.
Lot of work in close season for Wilder. I bet there will be more changes than everyone imagjnes.
Lower league musings from someone who doesn't know the facts. Beano not up to standard? Are you sure SO? :lol:
'Maybe', I said 'maybe'.
You also said pissing on chips. More like pissing into the wind if you ask me.
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Post by Werthers Original »

I'm delighted that we seem to be achieving some season-on-season consistency at last - I have no objections to signing some more players, but am glad we are keeping most of the team together.

Funny, Batt to me is the weakest link, although he can be exciting going forward. But I'm certainly no expert. Is anyone here?
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&quotSackcloth Ox&quot wrote:Can I start the pessimism? Devil's advocate here. Come on shoot me down.

League 2 has improved signficantly since we were last there. Too many supporters are already writing off next season as a procession to promotion. On what grounds? That we finished third?

I reckon , forget the also rans, quite a few of the winning team yesterday are not really up to league football. And I'll name them.

Clarke- too many errors in key games./Creighton (too slow) /Bulman (ditto) /Day ( too slow).

Maybe not up to it: M Green (inconsistent!)/ gulp, Beano, (remains unproven at higher level)

Up to it:

Batt, Tonkin, Clist (just)/Wright (definitely)/Chapman (but he'll be in with Norman Stanley Fletcher/Potter/Deering/Midson ( not 100% convinced but he has good skill level.)


Sorry to piss on chips, that's how I see it.
Lot of work in close season for Wilder. I bet there will be more changes than everyone imagjnes.
Disagree with a lot of that.

League 2 may have improved but no more than the Conference has improved. Exeter finished what 5th in the Conference 2 seasons ago and came in the top 3 of League 2 last year. Are we much worse than Exeter? Has the league improved since then?

Clarke made 2 bad mistakes in the season. Overall he has been incredibly consistent. There is a worry about the mistake in the final- can he take the pressure? but far too early to write him off.

Bullman and Creighton could be fine in League 2. Remember people suggesting that Shotton/ Briggs were too slow and not good enough for Division 2? Creighton will be Ok if Wright is signed.

I reckon thta we need 4-5 quality players. If CW gets these right, then therre is nothing in recent history to sugegst that we can't finish in the top 7.
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