Squad Status 08/09

[GodalmingYellow]

Damned if they do, damned if they don't.....

Not only is every utterance from DP leapt upon for hidden meanings/changes in tack/lies/indications that WPL are quitting/etc/etc, any lack of utterance is equally overanalysed, while throwaway utterances from serial utterers (sp?) such as Barry Fry are taken as gospel indications of our overall strategy.

Whatever DP says when asked about transfer activity will just be taken as disastrous:
i) No comment - typical poor club communication, we demand to know what is going on, he's been given no budget, he's getting nowhere and is too scared to say so, DP OUT
ii) We're talking to players - typical poor club communication, we demand to know what is going on, noone is interested, he's been given no budget, he's getting nowhere and is too scared to say so, DP OUT
iii) We've got specific targets and given them a deadline - typical poor club communication, we demand to know what is going on, it's one minute past the deadline so noone is interested, he's been given no budget, he's getting nowhere and is too scared to say so, DP OUT
iv) We've got specific targets and gave them a deadline and are finalising the deal - typical poor club communication, we demand to know what is going on, finalising the deal means they arent really interested, he's been given no budget, he's getting nowhere and is too scared to say so, DP OUT
v) We're talking to Guy Madjo, he's keen to join and is coming in tomorrow to sign a deal - typical naive club communication, why are they telling every club what is going on, if he's that keen he should be in today to sign, he's not good enough anyway, that's what they said about Matt Green before someone hijacked him, he's taking us nowhere and is too scared to say so, DP OUT

Frankly, whoever is first to sign stands no chance of ever being deemed acceptable by a baying hoard who have built themselves up into a frenzy of expectation that even Christiano Ronaldo would struggle to satisfy.
If this Scott Taylor does join us (and it was in a local paper in Lewes so it must be true), then the whole city will descend into meltdown at the tragedy that is unfolding before their eyes, rather than wait to see what he can offer us playing wise once the warm-up games start.
Some people even seem to be under the illusion that the four teenage triallists that have joined this week is the final shortlist for our one signing of the year.

None of us have any real idea regarding the state of negotiations with any of his targets (how many, who they are, what they are being offered, how things are progressing, who has turned us down and who did we not approach). What we do know is that Chris W never posts anything on the club site until it is signed and sealed and that the OM (for whatever reason - an agreement with the club or just lazyness) are not printing any stories on potential signings (unlike some other papers around the country). Therefore what does come out is unreliable at best, and clearly not the whole picture.

I'd love to know who we're signing, but in truth any name would be little more than just a name at this stage, as my knowledge of lower/non league players (as with most people I suspect) is extremely limited to the extent that to have heard of them would be a bonus, to have actually seen them a rarity and to have seen them enough to be able to form a valid assessment of their suitability almost an impossibility.

So, call me a gullible old fool, but I'm happy to trust DP &amp co to progress their search in their own way and announce signings when they are ready to do so and then form my opinions on what they do while they are here, rather than have them marked down as failures before they even don the yellow shirt for the first time.

You're a gullible old fool.

[Roo]

Damned if they do, damned if they don't.....

Not only is every utterance from DP leapt upon for hidden meanings/changes in tack/lies/indications that WPL are quitting/etc/etc, any lack of utterance is equally overanalysed, while throwaway utterances from serial utterers (sp?) such as Barry Fry are taken as gospel indications of our overall strategy.

Whatever DP says when asked about transfer activity will just be taken as disastrous:
i) No comment - typical poor club communication, we demand to know what is going on, he's been given no budget, he's getting nowhere and is too scared to say so, DP OUT
ii) We're talking to players - typical poor club communication, we demand to know what is going on, noone is interested, he's been given no budget, he's getting nowhere and is too scared to say so, DP OUT
iii) We've got specific targets and given them a deadline - typical poor club communication, we demand to know what is going on, it's one minute past the deadline so noone is interested, he's been given no budget, he's getting nowhere and is too scared to say so, DP OUT
iv) We've got specific targets and gave them a deadline and are finalising the deal - typical poor club communication, we demand to know what is going on, finalising the deal means they arent really interested, he's been given no budget, he's getting nowhere and is too scared to say so, DP OUT
v) We're talking to Guy Madjo, he's keen to join and is coming in tomorrow to sign a deal - typical naive club communication, why are they telling every club what is going on, if he's that keen he should be in today to sign, he's not good enough anyway, that's what they said about Matt Green before someone hijacked him, he's taking us nowhere and is too scared to say so, DP OUT

Frankly, whoever is first to sign stands no chance of ever being deemed acceptable by a baying hoard who have built themselves up into a frenzy of expectation that even Christiano Ronaldo would struggle to satisfy.
If this Scott Taylor does join us (and it was in a local paper in Lewes so it must be true), then the whole city will descend into meltdown at the tragedy that is unfolding before their eyes, rather than wait to see what he can offer us playing wise once the warm-up games start.
Some people even seem to be under the illusion that the four teenage triallists that have joined this week is the final shortlist for our one signing of the year.

None of us have any real idea regarding the state of negotiations with any of his targets (how many, who they are, what they are being offered, how things are progressing, who has turned us down and who did we not approach). What we do know is that Chris W never posts anything on the club site until it is signed and sealed and that the OM (for whatever reason - an agreement with the club or just lazyness) are not printing any stories on potential signings (unlike some other papers around the country). Therefore what does come out is unreliable at best, and clearly not the whole picture.

I'd love to know who we're signing, but in truth any name would be little more than just a name at this stage, as my knowledge of lower/non league players (as with most people I suspect) is extremely limited to the extent that to have heard of them would be a bonus, to have actually seen them a rarity and to have seen them enough to be able to form a valid assessment of their suitability almost an impossibility.

So, call me a gullible old fool, but I'm happy to trust DP &amp co to progress their search in their own way and announce signings when they are ready to do so and then form my opinions on what they do while they are here, rather than have them marked down as failures before they even don the yellow shirt for the first time.

You're a gullible old fool.

I think these are all good points G.Y........HOWEVER........I do feel Patto was a bit gullible to say that something would be tied up by the middle of the week fo certain.....he's painted himself into a bit of a corner.

I still think there is time to get the players though, I would've thought that the first week of July would've been a more suitable deadline?

[Roo]

Damned if they do, damned if they don't.....

Not only is every utterance from DP leapt upon for hidden meanings/changes in tack/lies/indications that WPL are quitting/etc/etc, any lack of utterance is equally overanalysed, while throwaway utterances from serial utterers (sp?) such as Barry Fry are taken as gospel indications of our overall strategy.

Whatever DP says when asked about transfer activity will just be taken as disastrous:
i) No comment - typical poor club communication, we demand to know what is going on, he's been given no budget, he's getting nowhere and is too scared to say so, DP OUT
ii) We're talking to players - typical poor club communication, we demand to know what is going on, noone is interested, he's been given no budget, he's getting nowhere and is too scared to say so, DP OUT
iii) We've got specific targets and given them a deadline - typical poor club communication, we demand to know what is going on, it's one minute past the deadline so noone is interested, he's been given no budget, he's getting nowhere and is too scared to say so, DP OUT
iv) We've got specific targets and gave them a deadline and are finalising the deal - typical poor club communication, we demand to know what is going on, finalising the deal means they arent really interested, he's been given no budget, he's getting nowhere and is too scared to say so, DP OUT
v) We're talking to Guy Madjo, he's keen to join and is coming in tomorrow to sign a deal - typical naive club communication, why are they telling every club what is going on, if he's that keen he should be in today to sign, he's not good enough anyway, that's what they said about Matt Green before someone hijacked him, he's taking us nowhere and is too scared to say so, DP OUT

Frankly, whoever is first to sign stands no chance of ever being deemed acceptable by a baying hoard who have built themselves up into a frenzy of expectation that even Christiano Ronaldo would struggle to satisfy.
If this Scott Taylor does join us (and it was in a local paper in Lewes so it must be true), then the whole city will descend into meltdown at the tragedy that is unfolding before their eyes, rather than wait to see what he can offer us playing wise once the warm-up games start.
Some people even seem to be under the illusion that the four teenage triallists that have joined this week is the final shortlist for our one signing of the year.

None of us have any real idea regarding the state of negotiations with any of his targets (how many, who they are, what they are being offered, how things are progressing, who has turned us down and who did we not approach). What we do know is that Chris W never posts anything on the club site until it is signed and sealed and that the OM (for whatever reason - an agreement with the club or just lazyness) are not printing any stories on potential signings (unlike some other papers around the country). Therefore what does come out is unreliable at best, and clearly not the whole picture.

I'd love to know who we're signing, but in truth any name would be little more than just a name at this stage, as my knowledge of lower/non league players (as with most people I suspect) is extremely limited to the extent that to have heard of them would be a bonus, to have actually seen them a rarity and to have seen them enough to be able to form a valid assessment of their suitability almost an impossibility.

So, call me a gullible old fool, but I'm happy to trust DP &amp co to progress their search in their own way and announce signings when they are ready to do so and then form my opinions on what they do while they are here, rather than have them marked down as failures before they even don the yellow shirt for the first time.

You're a gullible old fool.

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I think these are all good points G.Y........HOWEVER........I do feel Patto was a bit gullible to say that something would be tied up by the middle of the week for certain, I would think that the first week of July was a more likely deadline.

[Roo]

ACTUALLY SHOULD SAY&gt&gt&gt&gt&gt&gt&gt&gt&gt&gt

I think these are all good points G.Y........HOWEVER........I do feel Patto was a bit gullible to say that something would be tied up by the middle of the week for certain, I would think that the first week of July would be a more reasonable deadline.

[Snake]

http://www.oxfordmail.net/mostpopular.v ... tience.php

According to the OM “Patterson’s Losing Patience

[recordmeister]

So it would seem that Patto is having problems signing players. But Jim Smith managed it (even if some of them were total no-hopers). This begs the question: As a Director of the Club, earning a wage, what is Smiffy doing to help Patto out?

Has Patto been isolated in the club and can't get help from Jim?

or

Does Patto think he can do it alone, and turns down any help from Jim?

or

Is Jim actually doing sod all, both to help Patto and to help the club? If so, why is he a director?

[Baboo]

Perhaps Jim has got no interest in any of this.

Doesn't his current pay deal run out in July. Can't see any reason why we should be paying him anything more than peanuts in the future.

And how come we were able to attract Hand, Howard, McAllister, and Green to the club towards the end of last season. What has changed ?

[recordmeister]

And how come we were able to attract Hand, Howard, McAllister, and Green to the club towards the end of last season. What has changed ?

The term &quotshop window&quot seems to fit here, does it not... come and play some games in order to get a 2 yr contract elsewhere...?

[Mally]

Perhaps Jim has got no interest in any of this.

Doesn't his current pay deal run out in July. Can't see any reason why we should be paying him anything more than peanuts in the future.

And how come we were able to attract Hand, Howard, McAllister, and Green to the club towards the end of last season. What has changed ?

What has changed? - Isn't it obvious? Last season there was a wages cap that meant nobody could pay anything like as much as we could because we were spending to the limit of the cap. This year there are almost no restrictions on our rivals but we've had our budget cut. Hence Torquay can afford Green but we can't. Stevenage can afford Anaclet but we can't, etc. etc.

I wasn't worried before because I thought Patto was just biding his time to get the right signings but it now looks like the real problem is one of a lack of finances.

[SmileyMan]

If that' true, then much as I hate to sound like that miserable man, prudence could turn out to be a valuable strategy come the middle of the season.

Get some bargain players in January from clubs who overspent in the summer?

So long as we're able to stay in touch until then, that's almost a good idea.

I really must throw these rose-tinted specs away.

[Pe├▒a Oxford United]

Anyway, it's the cricket season...

[Baboo]

If that' true, then much as I hate to sound like that miserable man, prudence could turn out to be a valuable strategy come the middle of the season.

Get some bargain players in January from clubs who overspent in the summer?

So long as we're able to stay in touch until then, that's almost a good idea.

I really must throw these rose-tinted specs away.

Let's hope so then- it seems our only chance. The more clubs that go the way of Halifax the better for us?

It seems crazy though - Wrexham aside (&amp that's debatable) we're the biggest club in this league and are being outspent by all and sundry.

But what's money got to do with success - we screwed up when we threw shed loads of it trying to get back into the football league.

[Baboo]

[quote=&quotMally
I wasn't worried before because I thought Patto was just biding his time to get the right signings but it now looks like the real problem is one of a lack of finances.[/quote]

So we are back to that age old problem - No decent signing, lack of season ticket sales, lack of success, = lack of pay on the day punters through the turnstiles = no dosh to get decent players.

But how have other clubs on limited resources gone zooming past us in the footballing hierarcy?
Are they all massively in debt, or do they have wealthy benefactors or have they just been better run than we have?

[Pe├▒a Oxford United]

The last of those is almost inconceivable.

[OUFC4eva]

.........but our esteemed and egotistical chairman, Mr Merry, publically
confirmed live on Radio Oxford ,about four weeks ago that Patterson would have a very similar budget for 2008/2009 to spend !