Squeaky bum time....
Under previous managers I'd have said 'need a point and lose'. Under Wilder I voted for 'need a win and get it'
That's been the hallmark of this season's team - being able to stop the rot after only a couple of bad games, rather than the couple of season-ruining months that we've had before.
Of the five clubs still in the fight, I think the Gills would have to be super-lucky to get a playoff spot now - they needed to beat us last weekend to have a realistic chance. And as I mentioned in another thread, I suspect that both we and Crewe will overtake Cheltenham, but that's purely a hunch not based on any serious analysis.
That's been the hallmark of this season's team - being able to stop the rot after only a couple of bad games, rather than the couple of season-ruining months that we've had before.
Of the five clubs still in the fight, I think the Gills would have to be super-lucky to get a playoff spot now - they needed to beat us last weekend to have a realistic chance. And as I mentioned in another thread, I suspect that both we and Crewe will overtake Cheltenham, but that's purely a hunch not based on any serious analysis.
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I've been doing this in my head for the last couple of weeks. Sticking my neck out, I'd say it's two from three - Chelt, us and Crewe - and we all have fairly tricky fixtures.
Crewe v Chelterham - Crewe Win
Plymouth v Ox - really should win, but I think Draw
So Cheltenham 71, Crewe 70, Ox 68
Ox - Southend - Ox win
Torquay - Crewe - Torquay win
Chelt - Bradford - Chelt win
So Cheltenham 74, Ox 71, Crewe 70
Plymouth - Cheltenham - draw
Crewe - Aldershot - draw
Port Vale - Ox - draw
So Cheltenham 75, Ox 72, Crewe 71
Obviously that would mean that we could afford to lose on the final day as long as Crewe were held. the absolute key is to win at least one, and I think that should be Southend at home who hopefully we will safely in the play-offs by then. A win on Sat at Plymouth would be very handy indeed though.
Clearly it won't happen like this at all....
Crewe v Chelterham - Crewe Win
Plymouth v Ox - really should win, but I think Draw
So Cheltenham 71, Crewe 70, Ox 68
Ox - Southend - Ox win
Torquay - Crewe - Torquay win
Chelt - Bradford - Chelt win
So Cheltenham 74, Ox 71, Crewe 70
Plymouth - Cheltenham - draw
Crewe - Aldershot - draw
Port Vale - Ox - draw
So Cheltenham 75, Ox 72, Crewe 71
Obviously that would mean that we could afford to lose on the final day as long as Crewe were held. the absolute key is to win at least one, and I think that should be Southend at home who hopefully we will safely in the play-offs by then. A win on Sat at Plymouth would be very handy indeed though.
Clearly it won't happen like this at all....
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I saw that, and a few weeks back thought that both they and Southend were potentially catchable, but this run in has been notable for the large proportion of games the top clubs have had against poorer opposition, and therefore even those losing a bit of momentum have still been able to pick up points quite regularly, meaning the much hoped for meltdowns among the Top6 have never really happened."SmileyMan" wrote: And as I mentioned in another thread, I suspect that both we and Crewe will overtake Cheltenham, but that's purely a hunch not based on any serious analysis.
Even now, Southend are 7pts ahead (with Barnet and Macclesfield to host) and Cheltenham 4, and while the latter have to go to Crewe (& Plymouth), they've also got Bradford at home in between, which they should be able to win, so unless you expect both Oxford AND Crewe to win three from three then they seem pretty safe to me
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I see no reason why Crewe should be held at home by Aldershot on the last day of the season, so I think we need to better their results during the next two games in order not to have a very nervy trip to Vale Park.
Ultimately, of course, it's all in our own hands. Win our games, and we don't need to worry about what anyone else is doing. I hope that is what CW is impressing upon our players - go out, be positive, score goals and win the games and we're in the play-offs.
However, I also see no reason to think that we are about to win 3 in a row when we haven't managed that feat all season. Our current form suggests a couple of draws in our next two matches. Squeaky bum time indeed.
Ultimately, of course, it's all in our own hands. Win our games, and we don't need to worry about what anyone else is doing. I hope that is what CW is impressing upon our players - go out, be positive, score goals and win the games and we're in the play-offs.
However, I also see no reason to think that we are about to win 3 in a row when we haven't managed that feat all season. Our current form suggests a couple of draws in our next two matches. Squeaky bum time indeed.
I said a while ago on another thread that I thought Crewe would overtake us and that we would need to overtake Cheltenham (or someone else above us) to get into the play-offs. I cannot see us catching anyone above now but, sadly, I still see Crewe winning both their home games and sneaking above us as we stutter to a couple of draws and, maybe, a win.........
Oh, to be an optimist!
Oh, to be an optimist!
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Easy, this management lark. Wonder what the other managers in the mix are impressing on their players? But, yes - a very valid approach."Kernow Yellow" wrote: I hope that is what CW is impressing upon our players - go out, be positive, score goals and win the games
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I think plenty of teams, us included, often set out first and foremost not to lose games - be solid, don't concede, keep possession, move the ball about and hope to nick a goal or two. Make sure you get at worst a draw, and hope for more. That's not to say you don't *try* to score goals, but you don't take too many risks doing so."Baboo" wrote:Easy, this management lark. Wonder what the other managers in the mix are impressing on their players? But, yes - a very valid approach."Kernow Yellow" wrote: I hope that is what CW is impressing upon our players - go out, be positive, score goals and win the games
But draws probably won't be good enough for us now. We need to go for it a bit more than usual.
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I did say it was a hunch, and not based on anything like reason or statistical likelihood."Mooro" wrote:I saw that, and a few weeks back thought that both they and Southend were potentially catchable, but this run in has been notable for the large proportion of games the top clubs have had against poorer opposition, and therefore even those losing a bit of momentum have still been able to pick up points quite regularly, meaning the much hoped for meltdowns among the Top6 have never really happened."SmileyMan" wrote: And as I mentioned in another thread, I suspect that both we and Crewe will overtake Cheltenham, but that's purely a hunch not based on any serious analysis.
Even now, Southend are 7pts ahead (with Barnet and Macclesfield to host) and Cheltenham 4, and while the latter have to go to Crewe (& Plymouth), they've also got Bradford at home in between, which they should be able to win, so unless you expect both Oxford AND Crewe to win three from three then they seem pretty safe to me
They're 7/2 on Betfair to miss out on a top 7 spot, so maybe I should put my money where my mouth is...
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