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This is quite interesting in my sad mind. It would be good for someone (and not me!) to match this against average attendances....
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The ones that stand out for me are Newport and Grimsby, when you consider their number of banning orders relative to their attendances. For the season in question, Newport were getting sub-1000 attendances in the Blue Square South, and Grimsby were getting themselves relegated from Division 4 with attendances of about 4,000.
Amazed that Stephen Hedge had a big fat zero when you consider how chavvy and braindead their fans usually appear when they play us. Well done to them, I suppose.
Also highly amused by AFC Wimbledon's achievement of 4 - not bad for a club which is generally considered to be about as sedate and middle class as it's possible to be!
Amazed that Stephen Hedge had a big fat zero when you consider how chavvy and braindead their fans usually appear when they play us. Well done to them, I suppose.
Also highly amused by AFC Wimbledon's achievement of 4 - not bad for a club which is generally considered to be about as sedate and middle class as it's possible to be!
Not sure you can draw too many conclusions from this sort of analysis. First, arrests just show how many people have been caught, but not necessarily convicted second, we all know that different police forces have different levels of tolerance, so figures from different parts of the country may well reflect that, rather than how many naughty people follow those clubs.
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Queries about the data noted and using Football365's attendance averages for 2009-2010:
if you combine last year's league one and two, there's a 0.60 correlation between arrests and average crowd - but that is largely driven by league one (correl 0.63) with league two less obviously related (0.27). The bad boys in terms of arrests per crowd in league two were Grimsby and Port Vale, with Chesterfield a long way back in third). Tranmere beat Millwall for top badboy spot in league one, with Exeter and the Scummers third and fourth ahead of Leeds. Combining them, the Grimsby and Port Vale ratios are higher than those of Tranmere and Millwall. Based on last season, we'd be mid-table, level with Northampton in 12th
if you combine last year's league one and two, there's a 0.60 correlation between arrests and average crowd - but that is largely driven by league one (correl 0.63) with league two less obviously related (0.27). The bad boys in terms of arrests per crowd in league two were Grimsby and Port Vale, with Chesterfield a long way back in third). Tranmere beat Millwall for top badboy spot in league one, with Exeter and the Scummers third and fourth ahead of Leeds. Combining them, the Grimsby and Port Vale ratios are higher than those of Tranmere and Millwall. Based on last season, we'd be mid-table, level with Northampton in 12th
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Oy, give the stattos a break, it's pretty interesting stuff nonetheless."boris" wrote:Not sure you can draw too many conclusions from this sort of analysis. First, arrests just show how many people have been caught, but not necessarily convicted second, we all know that different police forces have different levels of tolerance, so figures from different parts of the country may well reflect that, rather than how many naughty people follow those clubs.
We CAN conclude Leeds Cardiff and Millwall have a very unsavoury significant hooligan element.
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And in terms of the absolute values, I wonder how many of Cardiff and Swansea's arrests came at the two games between those clubs? How many of Grimsby's came as the season drew to a close and relegation became more likely? (Not offering that as an excuse, merely a possible reason). What are the standard deviations in attendances and arrests in each Division, by the way?"Ancient Colin" wrote:Queries about the data noted and using Football365's attendance averages for 2009-2010:
if you combine last year's league one and two, there's a 0.60 correlation between arrests and average crowd - but that is largely driven by league one (correl 0.63) with league two less obviously related (0.27). The bad boys in terms of arrests per crowd in league two were Grimsby and Port Vale, with Chesterfield a long way back in third). Tranmere beat Millwall for top badboy spot in league one, with Exeter and the Scummers third and fourth ahead of Leeds. Combining them, the Grimsby and Port Vale ratios are higher than those of Tranmere and Millwall. Based on last season, we'd be mid-table, level with Northampton in 12th
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