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My point sought to draw a distinction between individuals and the collective. Regardless of whether or not individuals, looked at in isolation, are or are not notionally of Division 4 standard, what matters is how well the team does in Division 4. Some earlier postings suggested that some thought the likes of Bulman and Beast were not of such a standard, others thought they were and pointed also to their wider role in the team. I was simply trying to make the point that, even if players are "not of Division 4 standard", the wider positive externalities they create from being in the team makes the team perform better."recordmeister" wrote:Err... but if they do well in league two, are they not then, by their very nature, League 2 Standard?"Dr Bob" wrote:Quite - does every played need to be of Division 4 standard for the team to do well in this Division? I think not."neilw" wrote:There's a strong case for arguing that Bulman and Creighton aren't up to League 2 standard. However, there's and even stronger case to suggest that a team needs characters whom lead through example and inspire those around them. I believe both Bully and the Beast did this.
For many years, we've longed for the fight, tenacity and stature of Bulman and Creighton type characters. When we finally found them, we let them go too easily. Their weaknesses could be identified, whilst their intangible value to the team was not sufficiently valued.
In letting Bully go, the team lost its heart beat. This is so very evident in our current play.
Wilder is in self destruct mode at the moment, undoing every thing he himself created. He created the goodwill and togetherness but now seems set on causing friction and factions.
Thus, in direct response to your point, of course doing well in Division 4 indicates being of Divsiion 4 standard. My point is that even if not notionally of Diviasion 4 standard, certain individuals can still help a team perform at that level.
And, of course, the opposite also applies: a player may be notionally of Division 4 standard (or even better) but, for whatever reason, his presence in the side may mean that the collective plays less well. The dynamics of human social interaction means that football management can never be an exact science.