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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:05 am
Surely not?"Sideshow Rob" wrote:The Edwardian football authorities
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Surely not?"Sideshow Rob" wrote:The Edwardian football authorities
I would have thought that if they get promoted their gates are likely to rise, and the likelihood of them going bust would be reduced. I also think that their gates are worryingly high as it is and with the move to their new stadium imminent, going bust is not going to happen. Oh how I hope I am wrong."SmileyMan" wrote: Plus if franchise get promoted them we shouldn't have to give them our money. I just feel sorry for Milton Keynes the town, which will now never be able to get a real home football club up and running without the stigma attached. And the general Franchise boycott seems to be doing the job - without money they'll go bust eventually. Hopefully we'll pass them on their way out.
actually, tottenham were in division 1 and relegated at arsenal's expense if i remember correctly (it came up in a quiz recently)."Sideshow Rob" wrote:The Gunners were unfairly promoted into Division 1 ahead of Tottenham depite Spurs finishing above them in Division 2. The Arsenal Chairman did a tawry deal with the Football League. The Edwardian football authorities were untrustworthy and put the interests of the wealthiest clubs above that of the game as a whole. Some things never change."DLT" wrote:If Wigan were not funded by Mr Whelan they would not be in the Premiership.
I suppose Arsenal should also be kicked out as well Baboo!
AFCW have lost a lot of goodwill in NonLeague circles recently over a player registration row. They were given a massive points deduction (all points gained while the 'illegal' player was playing) in the same way as Altrincham were hammered last season."Geoff" wrote:I voted for Slumdon to be promoted.
Still living in hope that Wimbledon AFC will overtake MK Dons one day. They're in a play-off position at the moment I think?
Thanks for this update Ty. I worked in MK for 17 years until 2 years ago, also very close to the Hockey Stadium(Hockey ?? - when was the last time hockey was played on there) . I feel slightly more happy now I know that they are artificially inflating gate figures."ty cobb" wrote:Working in MK (in fact I can see the hockey stadium from my window) I know the reason why the crowds are high is because they give a very large number of tickets to kids each week. These include kids from catchement areas that would previously have been areas which provided some Oxford fans - Buckingham for example.
They also do things such as give people a new MK kit should they bring in any kit for any other team when they were on Sky recently in order to make it look like the people who were given free tickets were actually fans.
The new stadium was built in order to get a Asda on a prime site in the town and the stadium will have the 'largest conference centre' in the south and be used for under 21 matches and concerts. I will be interested to see if the owners continue to fund the losses once they have taken their cut from the deal going through - hopefully not and they'll slide into oblivion.
Still rather Slumdon stayed down though.
I think this had the slight whiff of the FA covering themselves in case it turns out West Ham messed up the Mascharano and Tevez registrations. A high profile case like that could have caused problems."Mooro" wrote:AFCW have lost a lot of goodwill in NonLeague circles recently over a player registration row. They were given a massive points deduction (all points gained while the 'illegal' player was playing) in the same way as Altrincham were hammered last season."Geoff" wrote:I voted for Slumdon to be promoted.
Still living in hope that Wimbledon AFC will overtake MK Dons one day. They're in a play-off position at the moment I think?
However, being who they are, they attracted support from MPs, the media and offers of free legal support and lo and behold their punishment was cut to just three points on appeal (whereas the Alty appeal was thrown out last year).
Few actually argue that this is not a more reasonable penalty, but there is a definate sense among clubs and fans at this level of there being one rule for one and another for the rest.
Anyway, as a result, they are still just about in the playoff zone, but whether they'll make the Conference South next season remains to be seen.
BTW - I'm another for the Slumdon camp
It is worth noting that Altrincham fans backed AFCW in their appeal though. The Dons got a hell of a lot of support from fans at all levels. There seem to some people intimating sour grapes from fans of other clubs, but basically everyone I know was genuinely pleased that the decision went the way it did.However, being who they are, they attracted support from MPs, the media and offers of free legal support and lo and behold their punishment was cut to just three points on appeal (whereas the Alty appeal was thrown out last year).
Agreed."Baboo" wrote:No debate in my mind - Slumdon, however much they are hated in these parts, are a real genuine football team. Franchise stand for everything that is the opposite of true genuine sporting competition. I still can't believe that they were allowed to get away with it. Crowds have nothing to do with it. On that basis Wigan & Watford should be thrown out of the top flight without a ball being kicked to be replaced by Sunderland and others with a larger fan base. Colchester for all their on field achievement should be dumped back down the league a division or two and promotion should be denied to the Iron.
No. What I will say is if the powers that be haven't got the ability to stop Chelsea doing as you say, they shouldn't stop franchise FC either. Stop both and I will agree with you Neil."neilw" wrote:"I don't follow this huge ehtical argument about franchise" .........
Blimey, next you'll be saying that Chelsea are good for the game and that it's perfectly acceptable for Russian Oligarchs to extort state funds and throw them at a European football clubs in the hope to gain profile and protection through it.
The Chelsea situation and Franchise situation are completely different."DLT" wrote:No. What I will say is if the powers that be haven't got the ability to stop Chelsea doing as you say, they shouldn't stop franchise FC either. Stop both and I will agree with you Neil."neilw" wrote:"I don't follow this huge ehtical argument about franchise" .........
Blimey, next you'll be saying that Chelsea are good for the game and that it's perfectly acceptable for Russian Oligarchs to extort state funds and throw them at a European football clubs in the hope to gain profile and protection through it.
Somewhere in the history of Wimbledon FC the fans sold their club and it became a business (same as all other clubs who searched for capital to create success). When they happened they surrender control of 'their' club.
I didn't hear the fans moaning when Hamman took over. Wimbledon out performed their resources for many years and had amazing success. If their fanbase had expanded to match their success the move would not have happened.
As John points out, AFC Wimbledon have done their own 'Chelsea' recently and used their superior size to over power their league body.
And for the comments on MK Dons marketing activities. I reckon our supporters would worship Merry and Co even more if he tried the same type of initiatives.