I get the point about the club not being the right body to determine morality. Affairs are not the same thing, as they are between consenting adults. Rape (of which Evans has been found not guilty) is illegal and by definition not between consenting adults. The law sets the absolute boundary, and as individuals we use that as a guide to morality. If an action or inaction is very close to being illegal, would you not agree that it is likely to be morally dubious at least?slappy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:12 pmWhere do we draw the line on this morality scale of who plays for the club?
There are always tales going around of player X or staff member Y having affairs. Other examples given of killing people in motoring accidents /drink driving, assaults, racism etc
Is Ched Evans a risk to the women at the club? I'd say probably not on a day-to-day level - though if there was a players' night out, you probably wouldn't recommend a woman go back to Evans's place on the basis he is a bit "rapey".
EDIT - i get that a lot of the argument is not about risk or regret or apologies, but about whether he is a suitable role model / character at the club.
Also, say Cristiano Ronaldo said he wanted to come and play for us? He is currently under investigation for an alleged rape of a women in a Las Vegas hotel room, with rumours of pay-offs. Innocent until proven guilty? Or too good to turn down?
On the Ronaldo case, I don't know the details, but I wouldn't want the club to sign a player who has been charged with rape or other serious sexual offence, no matter how good they were. As I said earlier, the bigger picture becomes more important.
In a no doubt miserable attempt to identify a vague line:
On the case of someone killing a person as a result of careless driving due to using a mobile phone, is that not a mistake? Without demeaning the crime and its horrendous consequences at all, if someone uses their phone whilst driving, it is not with aforethought of killing someone, hence it is "careless". When someone rapes someone else, it is a deliberately selfish and knowing act.
That aspect of knowing in conscience is an important dividing line imho in determining relative morality.
Its an interesting argument about where you draw the line, and I guess we all have different perspectives on that.