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Re: Chedsterfield

Post by SmileyMan » Fri Oct 14, 2016 5:52 pm

Two witnesses, one a few days before, and one a few days after, described the exact same scenario. Judge allowed special dispensation to take previous behaviour of the complainant into account, because he felt that in this case the jury needed to know about the repeat behaviour.

Like you say, the guys a scumbag, but his fiancee's forgiven him, so it's none of our business. And crucially, he's not a rapist.

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Re: Chedsterfield

Post by Jimski » Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:39 pm

I don't understand this verdict. Well, I do, given that rape cases seldom lead to convictions, but which of the following weren't true in this case: (a) she was too drunk to consent; and (b) he had sex with her. If one of those wasn't true, then fair dos, it's not (necessarily) rape. If not, well...

It seems they argued she wasn't too drunk to consent, but there were eyewitness accounts of her being extremely drunk, weren't there?

Bloke gets off in rape case though - hardly the biggest surprise in the world.

Anyway, the guy's still an arsehole, even if not technically a rapist.

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Re: Chedsterfield

Post by SmileyMan » Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:06 pm

Basically (a). It seems like this young lady was acting out the same scenario night after night in the hope of achieving her aim: (to quote one of her texts, sent after the act on the night) "When I win, I win big"

No-one comes out of this covered in glory. But I do think Evans has been harshly treated - if the evidence of the other occasions had been presented at the original trial, he'd have never been wrongly convicted.

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Re: Chedsterfield

Post by Jimski » Sat Oct 15, 2016 6:48 am

Amazing to see the Daily Mail and the Sun both have headlines slamming Evans. I'm impressed - the Mail especially would normally take the opposite line, I'd feel.

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpspro ... l15-10.jpg

and

http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsp ... n15-10.jpg

(The Sun's is a ridiculously misleading front page headline, of course - I can still pleased at whose side they took though.)

Another article that will hardly have one feeling sympathy for anyone but the complainant:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... in-retrial
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Re: Chedsterfield

Post by Jimski » Sat Oct 15, 2016 6:59 am

And we've got:
(1) the hotel receptionist who said her eyes were "glazed over"
(2) the takeaway owner who said she slurred her speech so much it was difficult to understand her, and that she fell over and needed help to stand up, and stumbled into one of his delivery vehicles.

I'm not surprised women's groups are up in arms at this verdict. I'm also not surprised most women just don't bother to report rape offences.

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Re: Chedsterfield

Post by Jimski » Sun Oct 16, 2016 7:03 am

Very impressed with the line taken by the press coverage on this. Evans being criticised on all fronts. Here's the Telegraph:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/201 ... ritain-is/

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