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Patrick Hoban

Post by Yankee Clipper » Fri Nov 21, 2014 7:37 pm

I think the signing of Patrick Hoban is to date the most significant indicator of the positive direction in which the club is moving. This is a player who was being touted by a couple of SPL clubs and by all accounts is a major coup for a League 2 side. It sounds like we have been tracking him for a couple of months as the Irish season was coming to an end. We have courted him and shown an interest and it has paid off. A good scouting network will stand us in good stead. I think both Hoban and Chey Dunkley are exciting young prospects who are joining a squad that is really starting to take shape and as MApp has said with genuine competition for places. I for one am excited for the future...

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Re: Patrick Hoban

Post by Radley Rambler » Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:57 pm

I agree - a very exciting signing. When Hoskins returns, we've got some serious competition upfront. I think Tyrone could be on his way.

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Re: Patrick Hoban

Post by Steppers » Sat Nov 22, 2014 10:28 am

I agree

I think the most positive thing about Appleton is that he learns from his mistakes and its afraid/too proud to change his plans etc.

The early season loans were obviously panic stop gaps as he walked through the door knowing that he had little/no scout reports for perm signings. As said above we seem to be signing the right sort of player now, not all will work but better to sign on the way up than down.

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Re: Patrick Hoban

Post by Yankee Clipper » Tue Dec 02, 2014 5:47 pm

FFS - Injured his ankle ligaments in training could be sidelined until February...

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Re: Patrick Hoban

Post by OUFC4eva » Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:24 pm

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Hopefully Will Hoskins will be fit for January.

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Re: Patrick Hoban

Post by A-Ro » Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:51 pm

Tyrone Barnett is now looking like a proper striker, just as we decide to let him go back, D'oh.

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Re: Patrick Hoban

Post by SWA » Mon Dec 08, 2014 5:11 pm

We haven't decided to let him go back. 93 days is the longest loan available to us. We can go back in for him on loan, or permanent, when the transfer window reopens on 3/1/2015

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Re: Patrick Hoban

Post by joepoolman » Mon Dec 08, 2014 5:48 pm

SWA wrote:We haven't decided to let him go back. 93 days is the longest loan available to us. We can go back in for him on loan, or permanent, when the transfer window reopens on 3/1/2015
I think the club pretty much did decide to let him go back as we could gave extended the loan before the loan deadline a couple of weeks ago, but instead we signed Burns and Campbell.

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Re: Patrick Hoban

Post by Kernow Yellow » Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:14 pm

Also, if all parties were really keen on the move, couldn't Posh cancel his contract and we then sign him as a free agent? Or are there rules preventing that? Presumably it would be impossible if Posh wanted a fee for him anyway.

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Re: Patrick Hoban

Post by Myles Francis » Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:25 pm

joepoolman wrote:
SWA wrote:We haven't decided to let him go back. 93 days is the longest loan available to us. We can go back in for him on loan, or permanent, when the transfer window reopens on 3/1/2015
I think the club pretty much did decide to let him go back as we could gave extended the loan before the loan deadline a couple of weeks ago, but instead we signed Burns and Campbell.
No, we could not have extended his loan. We had already taken him for the maximum 93 days - nothing to do with the loan deadline.

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Re: Patrick Hoban

Post by Myles Francis » Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:27 pm

Kernow Yellow wrote:Also, if all parties were really keen on the move, couldn't Posh cancel his contract and we then sign him as a free agent? Or are there rules preventing that? Presumably it would be impossible if Posh wanted a fee for him anyway.
Yep, there are rules preventing that - to close the loophole you've identified!

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Re: Patrick Hoban

Post by joepoolman » Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:31 pm

Myles Francis wrote:No, we could not have extended his loan. We had already taken him for the maximum 93 days - nothing to do with the loan deadline.
On RadOx on Saturday they said OUFC could've cancelled the loan and then resigned Barnett before the deadline.

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Re: Patrick Hoban

Post by Myles Francis » Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:43 am

joepoolman wrote:
Myles Francis wrote:No, we could not have extended his loan. We had already taken him for the maximum 93 days - nothing to do with the loan deadline.
On RadOx on Saturday they said OUFC could've cancelled the loan and then resigned Barnett before the deadline.
That is, quite simply, wrong. Under the "emergency loan" rules, a player can't be on loan to a club for more than 93 days, whether that be in one continuous period or aggregated over a number of shorter loan periods.

Also, he couldn't be signed as a free agent as he wasn't one when the last transfer window closed - the same reason as why Hoban wouldn't have been able to play until January.

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Re: Patrick Hoban

Post by Kernow Yellow » Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:09 am

Myles Francis wrote:
joepoolman wrote:On RadOx on Saturday they said OUFC could've cancelled the loan and then resigned Barnett before the deadline.
That is, quite simply, wrong. Under the "emergency loan" rules, a player can't be on loan to a club for more than 93 days, whether that be in one continuous period or aggregated over a number of shorter loan periods.
But could we have cancelled his loan every Monday and then restarted it every Friday? Ridiculous scenario I know, but RadOx did seem to be implying that we could have worked around it by stopping and restarting his loan if we'd really wanted to - but that he wasn't giving us great reason to do that earlier in his loan.

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Re: Patrick Hoban

Post by Myles Francis » Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:44 pm

Kernow Yellow wrote:
Myles Francis wrote: But could we have cancelled his loan every Monday and then restarted it every Friday? Ridiculous scenario I know, but RadOx did seem to be implying that we could have worked around it by stopping and restarting his loan if we'd really wanted to - but that he wasn't giving us great reason to do that earlier in his loan.
No, because emergency loans have to be a minimum of 28 days. So, I guess it's possible that we could have manufactured a few extra days by having breaks after each 28 day period, but I suspect that the League would've found this against the spirit of the rules and called foul.

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