A Few Questions
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A Few Questions
1. What is all this rubbish being talked about AFC Oxford? As far as I am aware, Oxford United Football Club still exists and isn't any any immediate danger of going out of business. We are hardly Luton Town, are we? All this poppycock talk is like saying to your wife "I know you have a cold, but i'm worried it might turn into something a little more serious so I've joined an internet dating agency. Ya know... just in case. Wouldn't want the kids to be left without a mum now, would i?". It's sick, I tell ya.
2. More poppycock about IL wanting to pull his money out. Does he? Does he really? If that is the case, how have we managed to resign two of our highest paid players (I would guess) on fairly long term deals? Where has the money come from for that, if IL has "pulled out" or wants to pull out. I recently lost my job and when you know you ain't gonna get a regular wage for a bit, the last thing you do is going on a spending spree or sign loads of expensive contracts for stuff. The same is true of running a football club. This would be evident to me that he is in it for a little while longer.
2. More poppycock about IL wanting to pull his money out. Does he? Does he really? If that is the case, how have we managed to resign two of our highest paid players (I would guess) on fairly long term deals? Where has the money come from for that, if IL has "pulled out" or wants to pull out. I recently lost my job and when you know you ain't gonna get a regular wage for a bit, the last thing you do is going on a spending spree or sign loads of expensive contracts for stuff. The same is true of running a football club. This would be evident to me that he is in it for a little while longer.
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Yes quite!
This thread at the Guardian should please some of you jumpers-for-goalpost types - there's a few votes for the Manor
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk ... _g.html
This thread at the Guardian should please some of you jumpers-for-goalpost types - there's a few votes for the Manor
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk ... _g.html
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AIM is the Alternative Invesmtment Market and is kind of like the FTSE for smaller companies who have a lot of trading in their shares."Snake" wrote:Anyone know what this means?
http://www.iii.co.uk/news/?type=afxnews ... on=article
I can't say what the cause is in this case without doing more research, but such announcements are normally made when either the share price has reacha deMinismis amount such that it is regarded that investors no longer have faith in the business, or when the business is aware of financial difficulties it is in and asks trading to be ceased, or when a floated business is going to be transferred into private hands because the shareholding of one individual is so large, there is no longer anything to trade.
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It appears that Sports Cafe are in a spot of financial bother:
http://www.londonstockexchange ... source=RNS
Given the suspension of share trading, I would guess the bank has declined the request for an extension of facilities.
http://www.londonstockexchange ... source=RNS
Given the suspension of share trading, I would guess the bank has declined the request for an extension of facilities.
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Re: A Few Questions
If you believe 1 then you need to re-consider. The club is in financial dire straits and only continues to operate because Lenagan allows it to."recordmeister" wrote:1. What is all this rubbish being talked about AFC Oxford? As far as I am aware, Oxford United Football Club still exists and isn't any any immediate danger of going out of business. We are hardly Luton Town, are we? All this poppycock talk is like saying to your wife "I know you have a cold, but i'm worried it might turn into something a little more serious so I've joined an internet dating agency. Ya know... just in case. Wouldn't want the kids to be left without a mum now, would i?". It's sick, I tell ya.
2. More poppycock about IL wanting to pull his money out. Does he? Does he really? If that is the case, how have we managed to resign two of our highest paid players (I would guess) on fairly long term deals? Where has the money come from for that, if IL has "pulled out" or wants to pull out. I recently lost my job and when you know you ain't gonna get a regular wage for a bit, the last thing you do is going on a spending spree or sign loads of expensive contracts for stuff. The same is true of running a football club. This would be evident to me that he is in it for a little while longer.
Some might want to put 2 and 2 together and connect Lenagan rumoured to be wanting his money back, and Sports Cafe being in financial trouble.
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"GodalmingYellow" wrote:AIM is the Alternative Invesmtment Market and is kind of like the FTSE for smaller companies who have a lot of trading in their shares."Snake" wrote:Anyone know what this means?
http://www.iii.co.uk/news/?type=afxnews ... on=article
I can't say what the cause is in this case without doing more research, but such announcements are normally made when either the share price has reacha deMinismis amount such that it is regarded that investors no longer have faith in the business, or when the business is aware of financial difficulties it is in and asks trading to be ceased, or when a floated business is going to be transferred into private hands because the shareholding of one individual is so large, there is no longer anything to trade.
Cutting to the quick, they are in the s**t. Lenagan has 1.5% of the shares. Bad times for the leisure sector coming.
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Lenagan has seemingly a mere £30 k investment in this. It is not his bread and butter.No need to man the lifeboats I'd say."Ancient Colin" wrote:http://www.sharecast.com/cgi-bin/sharec ... ?csi=31322
Hey ho, and away we go
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Re: A Few Questions
Reconcile that with Murray being signed on 18 month contracts, Turley and Quinn re-signing for 2 years. As RM says it doesn't really stack up."GodalmingYellow" wrote:If you believe 1 then you need to re-consider. The club is in financial dire straits and only continues to operate because Lenagan allows it to."recordmeister" wrote:1. What is all this rubbish being talked about AFC Oxford? As far as I am aware, Oxford United Football Club still exists and isn't any any immediate danger of going out of business. We are hardly Luton Town, are we? All this poppycock talk is like saying to your wife "I know you have a cold, but i'm worried it might turn into something a little more serious so I've joined an internet dating agency. Ya know... just in case. Wouldn't want the kids to be left without a mum now, would i?". It's sick, I tell ya.
2. More poppycock about IL wanting to pull his money out. Does he? Does he really? If that is the case, how have we managed to resign two of our highest paid players (I would guess) on fairly long term deals? Where has the money come from for that, if IL has "pulled out" or wants to pull out. I recently lost my job and when you know you ain't gonna get a regular wage for a bit, the last thing you do is going on a spending spree or sign loads of expensive contracts for stuff. The same is true of running a football club. This would be evident to me that he is in it for a little while longer.
Some might want to put 2 and 2 together and connect Lenagan rumoured to be wanting his money back, and Sports Cafe being in financial trouble.
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IL clearly isn't in trouble with that level of investment, unless of course he has other loans owing to him by Sports Cafe."Ascension Ox" wrote:Lenagan has seemingly a mere £30 k investment in this. It is not his bread and butter.No need to man the lifeboats I'd say."Ancient Colin" wrote:http://www.sharecast.com/cgi-bin/sharec ... ?csi=31322
Hey ho, and away we go
The new signings are meaningless to whether Lenagan wants out or not. If he is to recoup any of his money, the club will need to be in a sensible position football wise.
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Which of the companies does he have only 1.5% of the shares in?"Ascension Ox" wrote:Lenagan has seemingly a mere £30 k investment in this. It is not his bread and butter.No need to man the lifeboats I'd say."Ancient Colin" wrote:http://www.sharecast.com/cgi-bin/sharec ... ?csi=31322
Hey ho, and away we go
There are several companies in the group and until his full investment in terms of shareholdings in each of the companies, and his investment in terms of loans in each of the companies can be established, we can conclude nothing either way about any possible effects on OUFC.
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"GodalmingYellow" wrote:Which of the companies does he have only 1.5% of the shares in?"Ascension Ox" wrote:Lenagan has seemingly a mere £30 k investment in this. It is not his bread and butter.No need to man the lifeboats I'd say."Ancient Colin" wrote:http://www.sharecast.com/cgi-bin/sharec ... ?csi=31322
Hey ho, and away we go
There are several companies in the group and until his full investment in terms of shareholdings in each of the companies, and his investment in terms of loans in each of the companies can be established, we can conclude nothing either way about any possible effects on OUFC.
Look at the annual report, downloadable from website. Possibly he has sunk some money in after event of course. Shows consolid balnace sheet. Not a brilliant company - some interesting information. No wonder it has tipped over.
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No they are not meaningless. The long contracts are significant monetary commitments for the next 18 months/ 2 years. Quinn/Turley/Murray = lets say £150K? I see this development as being positive indicators of continuing support."GodalmingYellow" wrote:IL clearly isn't in trouble with that level of investment, unless of course he has other loans owing to him by Sports Cafe."Ascension Ox" wrote:Lenagan has seemingly a mere £30 k investment in this. It is not his bread and butter.No need to man the lifeboats I'd say."Ancient Colin" wrote:http://www.sharecast.com/cgi-bin/sharec ... ?csi=31322
Hey ho, and away we go
The new signings are meaningless to whether Lenagan wants out or not. If he is to recoup any of his money, the club will need to be in a sensible position football wise.